Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Just like magic!

From EWTN questions and answers - How did this priest ever get ordained?

Consecrated Host
Question from Matt on 5/25/2007:

The priest at our parish just explained that if we truly have faith that we as lay people can change the host at Mass into the blessed sacrament. I never realized this before. Why do priests need to be ordained then as I'm sure our priest have faith? Can you explain this to me?

Answer by Fr. Robert J. Levis on 5/25/2007: Matt, I would not say this ever. It might be an illustration of small and tiny faith which can move mountains, which Jesus said. Fr. Bob Levis

I appreciate the way Father Levis gives the priest the benefit of the doubt here, but how is this heresy allowed to be propagated from the sanctuary? Would his consecrations even be valid? It makes me wonder what is happening in our seminaries. Was his professor a theologian or a magician?

16 comments:

Anita Moore said...

The Lollards have definitely been making a comeback in recent years.

Simon-Peter Vickers-Buckley said...

er, no. Father L is guilty witout excuse. I am stunned by his reply. he is the one hope for EWTN. No matter the faith it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone (i.e. a man) not of the order of Melchizedek to confect a Host. WAKE UP so-called Catholics.

To think that anyone, "Catholic", could even ask such a dumb question.

Even my 4 year old knows...oh she doesn't? I'll think you'll find she does: she doesn't understand (who does) but she knows.
anathema.anethema.anethema sit!

Jeffrey Smith said...

It's quite possible that the questioner misunderstood or misrepresented something. Fr. Levis is right to be cautious.

paramedicgirl said...

That crossed my mind, too Jeffrey. But I reread the question a few times and I think the priest really said what the author of the question posed. There certainly are heretical priests out there. Sad but true. And there are wonderful priests out there, too. We need to support our priests who have sacrificed their lives for the good of our souls.

Anonymous said...

We've only heard one side of this and we don't even know that side was presented correctly or that this situation actually occurred.I don't know that we should be criticizing a priest based on internet hearsay.

uncle jim said...

lutheran theology -
consubstantiation

vs

catholic theology
transubstantiation

WH said...

That "priest" was exposing Neocatechumenal Way "theology". The "assembly" performs the consecration.

Manfred said...

Wouldn't you just LOVE to hear what Fr. Corapi's answer would have been to this question?

Anita Moore said...

Actually, in an age when I can go to Mass and hear, from the pulpit, dissent from the Church's teaching on divorce and remarriage, quotes from Marianne Williamson, and Reformation apologetics, I can believe that a priest would spout such heresies.

Mrs Jackie Parkes MJ said...

how awful!

Nice blog!

God bless

James S Blenkinsopp said...

It's quite possible that the questioner misunderstood or misrepresented something. Fr. Levis is right to be cautious.

I agree with Jeffery.

As for any priest who would actually say such a thing . . . that's bad even for a Novus Ordo priest!

I have always liked Father Levis, though his replies are sometimes unclear.

James S Blenkinsopp said...

Wouldn't you just LOVE to hear what Fr. Corapi's answer would have been to this question?

Ha! He might have asked for the address of the parish so he could kick his a$$!

Simon-Peter Vickers-Buckley said...

Father Leavis is a good priest. He has consistently (and subtly) supported the Latin Mass and exposed lies and errors on EWTNs Q&A board.

He just screwed up this time, that's all.If he wasn't clear was the questioner means he should have asked for some clarification.

Mark said...

Q. The priest at our parish just explained that if we truly have faith that we as lay people can change the host at Mass into the blessed sacrament.

A. I would not say this ever.

I think the answer to refute the clear attack on the sacramental priesthood is contained here-in, although the overall wording of both question and answer, as presented, is poor.

Fr. V said...

You can stay out of the question of whether the priest actually said that or if the question was a misleading set up and still know that it was a horribly misguided understanding of the faith.

Simon-Peter Vickers-Buckley said...

A world without priests...a living nightmare! What's next...if you have faith you can grant each other absolution?

It's bad enough we have lay Catholics who doubt the Order of Melchizedek, *if* a priest does it...

Thank goodness the priests I know, though we don't see eye to eye, stand tall for the Order at least.