In this video of the final Mass at World Youth Day, Pope Benedict actually looks stunned at the liturgical dancing show that eclipses the Mass. My bet is that it was sprung on the Pope and he had no knowledge of it beforehand.
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The universal Church has always made a distinction between meeting cultures that have dance as part of their religious rites and middle-aged nuns wafting around in leotards as "liturgy." Africans and other indigenous people that have movement in their liturgies are acceptable, as I understand it.
This was the processional in with the Gospels also. The dancers (Maori?) were met at the sanctuary. ( No dancing around the altar.) That all being said, it did look rather bellicose -- a war dance?
That just about makes me bawl like a child...and scream like a maniac.
We have an ethnic parish in my home town that has a separate mass for those that speak that certain language. Included in this mass are music and instruments common to that ethnic culture.
I am at a total loss as to why ANY culture would be allowed to supersede the Catholic culture in any regard?
Big no-no. If this had been a dance performed as a way to welcome him to Australia as he got off the ferry, that would have been O.K. But this is performed DURING mass! Was a Catholic in charge of planning this stuff?? I guarantee you that no less than 25 people new this was going to happen. And, no, I don't think he was too happy about it.
OREMUS.
Unbelievable! The Pope looks unhappy and DISGUSTED at one point. No wonder he had to go "rest: at Castel Gandolpho after WYD!
iam not surprised at the the look on his face. not at all. thank God this would NEVER happen in my church!
You can't put it past liberals to give the Pope an "up yours" to his face. Does anybody remember when Pope John Paul II was in the United States about 15 or 20 years ago, when there were calls from some within the Church for women's ordination, and a mime troop performed the Stations of the Cross with a woman in the role of Jesus? (I don't think the Pope was personally present for that event, but Mother Angelica still blew her stack, and rightly so.)
I can't even bring myself to watch it. Dance has NO place in the Sacred Liturgy. You can dance the other 23 hours of the friggin day!
Has WYD ever really accomplished anything? I roll my eyes whenever I hear of hype associated with yet another upcoming WYD. In 1993 and just last week, the Catholic rebel agenda just had to be pushed.
One thing WYD does provide, though: a captive audience for anti-Catholic fundamentalists to evangelize "unsaved" Catholics, whom they believe are not Christians.
Churches that are not western in asia have this constant problem with inculturation.
What i cannot undersatnd is that when all the old missionaries came into new lands they stuck to latin and explained the truth of the faith in local language but the mass was still in latin. Why then do we today add all these things during the mass which do not beling there. dance all you want before and after mass, but please RESPECT the catholic tradition.
As for the western church, the constant hand shaking, talking before and after mass in church, badly dressed people. this has got to stop. being non western when i go to a church in north america i cringe
and on a different note i would like to ask you all a question...
during mass wehn does your local priest break the host
1 - during consercration
or
2 - angus dei
Smiley, the priest fractions the host at the agnus dei, as is proper.
please do grow up people, this has nothing to do with liberals or any other label you may pluck from the air - lighten up, celebrate the diversity and inclusive nature of the Mother Church and further more get a cultured perspective on our Church instead of this philistine - verging on protestant attitude some of you have - our Church is not eurocentric anymore - inculturation is here to stay so drop the iconoclasm or else join the elitist protestant lefevres
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